October 1, 2004
The debates
And this is why I did not watch the debates.
WSJ reporter confirms authenticity of private email about being in Iraq. Very damaging to the arguments that Iraq is "getting better."
Let me get a few things off my chest:
- The fact that Bush is a "devout Christian" has no bearing on whether he should be President. I'm getting tired of all this talk about religion.
- Likewise, Kerry constantly reminding us he was in Vietnam also has no bearing on these elections.
- I took a quick skim over the transcripts, and it look like the whole debate was pretty much ripped from previous speeches both candidates made (as well as stuff on their websites????)
- Flipping through TV, they showed a few clips of the debates. Was Bush repeating himself throughout the whole thing? My goodness.
- The fact that Bush is not a good public speaker should have not be any indication towards his abilities as el Presidente. We've had tons of presidents who have not been very publicly suave, but have done just fine.
- They need to make me President. I would be awesome.
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monkeynotrobot (guest)
I would disagree with this since a recent poll showed that 75% of voters are more concerned with a candidate’s character then the issues.. b/c of the republican's insidious smear campaign Kerry is seen as a flip flopper who didn't deserve his purple hearts.
roy
PM5K (guest)
roy
PM5K (guest)
Come out of that closet, everyone knows anyway......
roy
nfpvic
Made it an almost painful experience for the decided's at times, but hey.
SuperSunJ
schneider
HK1997
apu1nahasa
roy
jinshil
they stand for. It's a very good opportunity for the Americans who are
undecided.
I actually thought the debate was very informative. Just because someone didn't get what they want out of it, doesn't mean it wasn't worthwhile. =)
I agree with bert with Bush limiting the solutions concerning Iraq. Everyone seem to agree that it has become a very hard situtation but noone seems to have a good answer. Why didn't Bush think this part out?
bert
It showed that the most common word in Bush's vocabulary is "Hard"
If i weren't paying attention to this race and just "met" these candidate for the first time.. I would vote for Kerry.. No questions asked.
Bush stammered, Bush stuttered, and bush looked confused. Not in any way shape or form did he instill any confidence in me about his ability to lead. He but in and made stupid ass comments.. and then he also broke rules that he agreed to.
Things that he missed. He could have commented that despite his 90% resources committed to Iraq.. that 75% of the most wanted terrorists have been brought to justice.
And perhaps that this would not have been accomplished had we not gone into Iraq. I think he missed the boat on this.
It showed the Kerry uses the same propoganda numbering as Karl Rove and the rest of the republicans. The most disturbing thing is that he spit out a number "about 40."
The hell was that pottery barn comment? That was dumb.. i bet at least 50% of america is too poor to know what pottery barn is. Yes.. I am serious.
Talking about Ruwanda when addressed about the Sudan Civil war? *sigh* John.. people don't even know Sudan is in african, let alone at war.
He showed people that he was very cool and wrote a book. Congrats you just came off like an elitist jackass to the majority of the public.
Though he did have a great comment about capturing bin laden. "we outsourced that job." It' was great.
So anyway.. I still disagree with jinshil. This debate was awful.
It wasn't a debate. It was an expression of opinions. Not once were they able to ask each other questions. Lehrer threw softballs and Kerry, and his digs at Bush were not hard enough.
Most importantly.. When asked about his plan.. Bush didn't say anything and Kerry pointed to his website, where surprise... I STILL can't find a plan of any semblence.
So, in conclusion, my vote is still going the way of Jesse Ventura.
jinshil
is that what you were looking for?
anyway, i still think that this debate is heck of a lot better and more informative than the national conventions, ads, and news clips so far. =b
bert
<b>Launch And Lead A New Era Of Alliances</b>
The threat of terrorism demands alliances on a global scale - to utilize every available resource to get the terrorists before they can strike at us. As president, John Kerry will lead a coalition of the able - because no force on earth is more able than the United States and its allies.
the plan involves HOW we get the allies and how we LEAD the allies.
<b> Modernize The World's Most Powerful Military To Meet New Threats </b>
I'm going to quote the very first line from this one. oh wait.. there only is 1 line.
John Kerry and John Edwards have a plan to transform the world's most powerful military to better address the modern threats of terrorism and proliferation, while ensuring that we have enough properly trained and equipped troops to meet our enduring strategic and regional missions.
my question.. Ok.. what is this plan? You have a plan.. GREAT.. what is it?
<b>Deploy All That Is In America's Arsenal </b>
The war on terror cannot be won by military might alone. As president, John Kerry will deploy all the forces in America's arsenal - our diplomacy, our intelligence system, our economic power, and the appeal of our values and ideas - to make America more secure and prevent a new generation of terrorists from emerging.
you realize in the debate that he said we were overextending ourselves right? pick a side johnny.
<b>Free America From Its Dangerous Dependence On Mideast Oil</b>
To secure our full independence and freedom, we must free America from its dangerous dependence on Mideast oil. By tapping American ingenuity, we can achieve that goal while growing our economy and protecting our environment.
that's a great plan john. What say you give me a way to make solar panels more than 8% efficient. what's that you say? You have a plan? ok.. what is it? use Alaskan oil? Fission? Use one of Al Gores OTHER inventions?
look jinshil. I'm not saying bush is great.. I am far from defending this guy. But God... if we could just have one HALFWAY decent non-politician...
i mean serious.. Jesse Ventura is looking pretty damn good right now aint he?
SuperSunJ
Blaming the President is good and all, but if he doesn't give any real alternative, then why the heck should I vote for him?
jinshil
bert
1. the debates sucked.
2. the WSJ reporter is right.. it is bad. But what does she propose we do about it? Selfishly pull out our troops and let the citizens live in fear? How bout bomb the whole place? What about sweep through with guns and tanks and kill anything that stands in our way. Better yet.. let the iraqis fend for themselves. Yeah.. great idea...
Unfortunately, i really only 2 two possible solutions. All terrorists are dead or.. All followers of western thought are dead. That's why Bush sucks.. because he made those the only solutions to end the violence.