Oh the nature of men
A few brief thoughts before I succumb to fatigue and pass out until 10am when my parents will wake me up saying "YOU SLEEP TOO MUCH" while I (failingly) try to explain to them I went to bed 3 hours ago:
All men are driven by a need to create something great. Men will often go at great lengths to achieve these ends, including tricking themselves. Personally, all my projects have in one way or another been inspired by girls. I kid you not. Tabulas was borne when Judy went overseas to study. NeoPages was borne out of an obsession of Tabulas. Run Sealie was another girl. etc, etc. If you think I'm just a naturally hard-working guy, I'm going to have to laugh at you. My diligence derives from the realization that if I want to land a truly great gal, I'm going to have to "raise my game." Joanne seemed surprised at this, but Nasty Nate knew what I was talking about.
It's all about self-validation for guys. We need to constantly feel like we're going to leave some sort of mark on this world, although all of us will die failing to do so in any significant manner.
This need to create something great is what drives men to play those "stupid games" and become obsessed with sports. Playing sports is the vestigal link to the past where the strongest man survived. However, since we have progressively become a lazier race, instead of playing sports, the ability to know what teams are great teams (or what players are great players) now takes the place of actually playing sports. You can take this one step further with gambling; now your "skills" in picking the best modern-day warriors helps your $$$ (which indirectly helps your chances of getting laid).
Video games are the same thing. Men must feel dominance in some aspect of their lives; and morons like me work my ass off on projects like this in some crapshoot dream that Tabulas will live on beyond me. Achillies from Troy was not far off the mark ...
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A quote I remember hearing, but I can't remember where: "Women fake orgasms, men fake relationships." Your thoughts?
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Leedar
Monogamy is unnatural and against the inherint nature of humans. While I can't speak for females (and I do wonder how much of this 'relationship' is just an artificial construct of society), males (on observation) will try to seek many partners. They aren't interested in 'relationships' simply because one of their jobs is to try and spread their DNA; if they are a superior specimen then the human race benefits from their attributes (if they are inferior then they won't get much sex and won't screw [no pun intended] humanity).
Women seem to be designated as more of the static figure, not so much spreading more acting as a base. Perhaps some tendency towards 'relationships' is that they might reproduce several times with their mate (to increase the amount of humans with the superior attributes, and therefore the probability of a carry on).
This whole system does map somewhat to even today's modern times, but is screwed around by the ever progressed human capability of defining its own behaviour.
lillia (guest)
minou_degrassi
I also undertake Big Projects to impress boys. Mine are a lot more frivolous than Tabulas though. That's about people's lives, man!
roy
benwebber
Baldosa11
But here's an interesting for you roy. What would you be if you could choose:
-George Clooney with money and any woman you want
or
-Abraham Lincoln, a man who's been imprinted in the history of mankind forever
(if you don't like the characters here, feel free to substitute but you get the gist)
roy
As for your question, yeah, I'd rather be George Clooney ... but I don't feel that creating a legacy and being a womanizer are mutually exclusive ;).
So thinking about what you said, I guess I try to be successful because:
(1) I think it will get me a good wife
and
(2) it might secure some type of legacy.
Interesting...
ghost_tree (guest)
basiik
I tried accessing the Forums, and I know the End of Neopages was at hand, but did you move the servers and everything?
What's going on? Just to clarify, as I think I might have read this on the forums, is the official neopages.net over over? No mas?
Cause I thought so. I have all my files backed up. I was reading something about backing all your files up on the forums.
Uh. I just wanna check before moving on. My main concern is I just got business cards printed with Neopages.net on them! -___-;;
Oh, and you were talking about you business cards, which look great, taking you forever to recieve them? I got mine printed at Overnightprints.com and they're great. And really fast. Good stuff. Thanks Roy. Sorry I'm so perstering.
......you got paypal?
Tallullah
Whether we built a bridge, cured a disease, or became a world dictator isn't really important in the big picture. All those names that went down in history will eventually be forgotten, and those people will be as insignificant as all the Jane and John Does who have ever lived.
Yet each of us have left a mark on the world, simply having existed. Our existence, albiet miniscule in the greater sphere of life, affected changes, created moments, and added to the energy that is life.
Interesting oxymoron, isn't it.
Oh, I found a quote last night that reminded me of you, from Henry David Thoreau quote: "How vain it is to sit down to write when you have not stood up to live." If you want to be a good writer, you need to live, take chances at relationships, and taste life in moderation.
roy
I've always noticed that mothers tend to have closer relationships with their children than fathers do. This seem indicative to me that there is a biological drive for women to have children; this biological drive largely offsets the drive that I've described above by men.
This is not to say that women are not driven; I know so many women who are more driven and determined than men, but at least women have that biological fulfillment when they have kids; i don't think men ever get that.
As for the quote ... I'm trying my best :)
Tallullah
There is a modicum of truth to that, but why is it then that men seem much more eager to procreate than women? It seems to be an accomplishment for men to create children as a legacy, especially if they are male children to carry on the surname.
I'm not sure I'd agree with the "biological need to create children" in women. I believe that is based more on a societal belief that it is the thing to do when you grow up. Not the best reason to create a life, really, but so many people have used that as their reason for having children.
I also believe the connection between mothers and children is stronger because mothers are generally the primary caregivers, and therefore more present in the lives of the children.
Perhaps this desire to leave a mark in the world might also be based on societal beliefs. We are judged more on what we do for a living than by who we are as people. When you meet someone, after exchanging hellos, the question always goes to "what do you do?" Perhaps if society didn't place such importance on what we do, but on who we are, this desire to achieve some sort of tangible goal in life might not be as strong. We would spend more time cultivating our inner selves and less time on racing towards some ellusive goal.